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Transcripts of Phone Calls...
supplied to K-TIP from Kansans for Life. The calls
were made and recorded by Life Dynamics, Inc., to
Kansas abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood offices. The caller
pretended to be a 13-year old girl in an active sexual relationship with a
22-year old man, which is a violation of every state's laws against statutory
rape. For more information about these calls, click
here.
PLANNED
PARENTHOOD
4401
W 109TH ST
SHAWNEE
MISSION, KS 66211-1303
913-312-5100
TAPE
- 356
(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)
CLINIC: Thank you for
calling Comprehensive Health. This
is Kimberly. How may I help you?
CALLER: Hi.
Yeah. I was wondering if you
guys do abortions there.
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: How much does that
cost?
CLINIC: It ranges from 375
to 2,250 --
CALLER: Oh.
CLINIC: -- depending on how
far along you are and what type of anesthesia you get.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, how do you know how far along you are?
CLINIC: They do a sonogram
when you come in for your procedure. We
can give you an estimate over the phone by going by the first day of your last
period.
CALLER: That was like
December 14th.
CLINIC: Okay, hold on. December 14th?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: So you're
approximately 10 weeks, maybe a little less than that.
The cost of the procedure is 375 to 500, up to 11.4 weeks. The price difference depends on what type of anesthesia
you're wanting. We offer three
types of anesthesia. There's local
where you're awake, and it's 375. There's
contra sedation where you're in a twilight sleep.
It's 450. And then there's
light general where you're totally asleep, and it's 500.
CALLER: Okay.
My friend told me that since I'll be 14 in March that you guys would have
to tell my parents. But my
boyfriend's 22. Could he just sign
whatever papers there are?
CLINIC: You're how old?
CALLER: I'll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: No.
Your parents would have to fill out a guardian notification form since
you are a minor. Your boyfriend
cannot sign it for you even though he is over 21.
CALLER: Oh.
Well, is there any way not to tell my parents? They can't find out at all.
CLINIC: You can get a
judicial bypass.
CALLER: What is that?
CLINIC: You have to go
through court and stand in front of a judge and tell him the reason why you feel
like you're capable of making your own decision without your parents knowing
about it.
CALLER: How much does that
cost?
CLINIC: I don't think it
cost anything. I could have you
talk to a counselor, and they could explain it to you better about the judicial
bypass.
CALLER: Well, should I come
in there for a pregnancy test first?
CLINIC: If you already know
you're pregnant, then you don't need to take a pregnancy test.
CALLER: Well, I'm not really
sure. I just know that I missed my
period, and I'm scared.
CLINIC: Okay.
Well, if you've had a missed period that's probably an indication that
you are pregnant.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: Have you taken a
pregnancy test?
CALLER: No.
CLINIC: Well, you can come
in and get one done. It's $18 cash
only. But it's the same thing
that you would get at the store. It's
a urine test.
CALLER: I would just rather
have it done there so that I know it's done right.
CLINIC: Okay.
Can you come in this afternoon?
CALLER: Well, I'd have to
call my boyfriend to see. But I
really wanted him to be there with me. Is
that all right?
CLINIC: He can come with
you. He can't go back when you're
back in the back talking with the nurse.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: But pregnancy tests
are done on a walk-in basis. You
can just walk in. Today they're
open until 6. You can come in from
3 to 6 today.
CALLER: He's really worried.
He doesn't want anyone to know about him.
Would you guys be asking a lot of questions?
CLINIC: Well, that just
depends on if you want to talk to a counselor or not.
You need to talk to a counselor about judicial bypass, and they're
probably going to want to know some information.
But everything is confidential.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Well, if the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys have birth control
there?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: Would you have to
tell anybody that I was on birth control or anything?
CLINIC: You can talk with
the nurse if you're wanting to get on birth control.
She can discuss those options with you also.
CALLER: But does she have to
tell anybody?
CLINIC: No, she doesn't have
to tell -- you don't need a parent/guardian notification to get on
birth control.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Is it all right if my boyfriend comes to pick it up?
Because I can't drive. I'm
not old enough to drive.
CLINIC: Is it okay what now?
CALLER: Is it okay if he
could pick up the pills?
CLINIC: You would have to
send him with a note or either call and let us know first that he's coming to
pick them up.
CALLER: Is it all right if I
call him and then call you back? What's
your name?
CLINIC: My name is Kimberly.
But if you want to get on birth control, you would have to be seen as a
patient here.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: So you would have to
have an appointment. But if you
just want to come in and get a pregnancy test, you can just walk in and get that
done today, after 3 but before 6:00.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Okay.
Well, I'll call him. Thanks.
CLINIC: All right.
Bye.
CALLER: Bye.
***END***
PLANNED
PARENTHOOD
122
E. 12TH ST
HAYS,
KS 67601-3608
785-628-2434
TAPE
- 401
(dialing sounds) (ringing
4X)
CLINIC: Hayes Planned
Parenthood. This is Jandy.
CALLER: Hi.
I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: No.
We don't.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, do you know of any place that does?
CLINIC: Yes.
Let me tell you -- look in the phone book in the yellow pages, and look
under -- hold on. I'll have to look
for you. It's under "abortion
providers."
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: And there's two
different ones in there, and they have 800 numbers in there.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, can I ask you a quick question?
CLINIC: Uh-huh.
CALLER: It's just I'm
worried because my friend told me that -- well, I'll be 14 in March, and she
said that they would have to tell my parents.
But my boyfriend's 22. Could
he just take care of it and they wouldn't have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: I don't think so. If you're under 18 you have to have parents' consent.
CALLER: Oh, is there -- do
you know of any way that I wouldn't have to tell my parents?
Because I don't know what would happen if my parents found out.
CLINIC: The only way would
be like through the court systems. If
you want and got emancipated.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: But I -- that's a
long, drawn-out process. But, yeah,
if you're under 18 you have to -- I know if you go to Wichita you have to have a
parents' consent.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test?
I'm just scared because like my last period was December 14.
So.
CLINIC: Sure.
We'll be here until 3:00 if you'd like to come down and get one.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, I'd have to call my boyfriend to see, but if it wasn't -- like if I
wasn't pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?
CLINIC: We sure do.
CALLER: Would it be all
right if like my boyfriend was there with me?
Because I would just feel better if he was there with me.
CLINIC: No, that's not a
problem. He can come down here with
us. Yeah, that's fine.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: If you guys do
decide to do it today as long as you're here before 3:00 we can get all that
taken care of.
CALLER: Well, it's just --
we were talking about it, and we just decided that we didn't want anybody to
know about us. Would you guys have
to ask any questions or anything or have him sign anything?
CLINIC: No, it would all be
around you. Everything down here is
strictly confidential. Here we can,
here in our office we can serve, like give services to minors without anybody
knowing, like parents, anybody.
CALLER: So if the pregnancy
test was negative and I was on birth control you guys wouldn't have to tell
anybody about that either?
CLINIC: Uh-uh.
Not at all.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Well --
CLINIC: How old did you say
you were?
CALLER: I'll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: Oh, okay.
But yeah, no, nothing down here, nothing. Parents don't know, nothing like that.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, would it be all right -- like it's just I don't drive yet.
But could my boyfriend pick up the, like the birth control if I had that?
Because I wouldn't have any way to pick it up.
CLINIC: If you actually came
down here and got the pregnancy test and it was negative, we'd still actually
have to see you. Like if you did do
it today we could do all of it -- like get you a pap smear and have the nurse
review your system, our health systems and everything, and then we could get you
some pills. For me, there on out,
yeah, if you call and tell me that he's coming in to pick them up, that's not a
problem. Not a problem at all.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: All right?
Let me -- you decide what you want to do, and if you want to come down
today we'll be here until 3:00. If
not, and you want to just make an appointment -- otherwise, give me a call back
and we'll get you taken care of.
CALLER: Well, your name was
Jan? Or what's your name?
CLINIC: Jandy.
Like Candy but with a J.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: All right?
CALLER: Thanks.
CLINIC: Uh-huh.
Bye bye.
CALLER: Bye.
(phone clicks)
*** THE END ***
PLANNED
PARENTHOOD
2226
E CENTRAL AVE
WICHITA,
KS 67214-4406
316-263-7575
TAPE
- 402
(dialing sounds) (ringing
1X)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.
Please hold.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Thanks for holding.
How can I help you?
CALLER: Yeah.
I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: No, we don't do it
here, but I could give you some people that could.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Okay, just a sec. Are you calling from Wichita?
CALLER: I'm in Augusta.
CLINIC: You're in Augusta. Okay. Let me
give you Dr. Tiller's number.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: It is -- is Wichita
long distance from you?
CALLER: No.
CLINIC: Okay.
It is 684-5108.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, do you know, like -- I'm just worried because my friend told me
that since like -- well, I'll be 14 in March and she said that they would have
to tell my parents I was getting an abortion.
But my boyfriend's 22. Could
he just handle that and they wouldn't have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: I wouldn't know
that. You might call their office
and ask them, okay?
CALLER: All right.
CLINIC: Okay.
CALLER: Well, could I come
in there for a pregnancy test though?
CLINIC: Yeah, you sure
could.
CALLER: Okay.
It's just I'm -- the reason why I'm worried about all this is because
like my last period was December 14, and I'm just scared.
CLINIC: Oh, well, I can
understand that. Um, when would you
want to come in?
CALLER: Well, I'm not sure
really. I'd have to call my
boyfriend to see when he could get off work.
What time do you --
CLINIC: We stop seeing
patients at 4:00 today.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Well, is it all right if he's there with me?
CLINIC: It sure is.
CALLER: That would be the
only way I could get there.
CLINIC: Yeah, it sure is. And we're open tomorrow from 8:30 to 12:30 if you want to
come in tomorrow morning.
CALLER: Okay.
Well, we were talking about it and we were not wanting -- we decided that
we didn't want anyone to know about all this, so would you guys have to tell
anybody about us, or --
CLINIC: No.
No. We're completely
confidential. We don't even share
information with other Planned Parenthood clinics without a signed consent.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Well, if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn't pregnant do you guys
have birth control there?
CLINIC: Yeah.
We can give you that without your parents' knowing too.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
Okay. Well, would it be all
right if like since my boyfriend, since I can't drive, could my boyfriend pick
up like the birth control pills, or --
CLINIC: At that time --
you'll have to see the nurse. What
we'll do is, we'll set you up an appointment for birth control.
And we'll do a pap smear which is a screening for cancer, and she'll
explain all of that to you and how it's done. And then she'll set you up on what
kind of birth control you want, and then if it's more convenient for him to pick
them up for you, yeah, we can put that in the computer and he'll be able to pick
them up. You'll just order that,
and he can pick them up.
CALLER: Okay.
So if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?
What was your name?
CLINIC: My name's Holly.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Thanks.
CLINIC: Uh-huh.
Bye bye.
CALLER: Bye.
(phone clicks)
*** THE END ***
WICHITA
FAMILY PLANNING
3013
E. CENTRAL AVE
WICHITA,
KS 67214
316-688-0107
TAPE
- 749
(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)
CLINIC: Wichita Family
Planning.
CALLER: Hi.
Yeah. I was calling to see
if you guys do abortions there.
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: How much does it
cost for that?
CLINIC: How far along are
you?
CALLER: I'm not really sure.
CLINIC: Anything under 12
weeks is $400 if you are a positive blood type.
CALLER: Okay.
How do you know how many weeks you are?
CLINIC: Do you know the
first day of your last period?
CALLER: January 3rd.
CLINIC: And that was the
first day, right?
CALLER: Yes.
CLINIC: Today you're looking
at about nine weeks.
CALLER: Okay.
So how much did you say it would be?
CLINIC: Four hundred dollars
if you're a positive blood type.
CALLER: Okay.
The thing is, I'm going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said
that you guys would have to tell my parents.
But my boyfriend's 22. Is
that old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn't have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: Oh, no.
In the state of Kansas we have to have parent consent.
CALLER: Oh, really?
CLINIC: Um‑hmm.
CALLER: Well, is there any
way not to have to tell my parents?
CLINIC: There is such a
thing called judicial bypass, although we don't mess with that here in our
clinic. You could call over to Dr. Tiller's (ph)
clinic, and maybe they could help you with that.
CALLER: Okay.
Do you have the number for that?
CLINIC: Are you calling from
Wichita?
CALLER: I'm in Leon.
CLINIC: Okay.
It's 1-800-882-0488.
CALLER: What was the last
four, 882 what?
CLINIC: 882-0488.
CALLER: Okay.
All right. Well, I haven't
had a pregnancy test yet. Would I
be able to come in there for that?
CLINIC: Sure.
CALLER: Okay.
But would you have to tell my parents then?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: Well, how much does
it cost for that?
CLINIC: Five dollars.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
So it would be all right if my boyfriend was there with me for that?
CLINIC: Sure.
Sure.
CALLER: But if I wasn't
pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?
CLINIC: Not without consent.
CALLER: Oh, really?
CLINIC: Um-hmm.
You could go to Planned Parenthood.
CALLER: And they wouldn't
have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: Uh-uh.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
All right. So just call this
other doctor guy?
CLINIC: Uh-huh.
Yeah. And just ask him about
the -- first I'd find out if I was pregnant.
CALLER: Okay.
So I could come in to you guys? When
do you guys normally do that?
CLINIC: On Wednesdays.
CALLER: On Wednesday? What time on Wednesday?
CLINIC: For the procedure or --
CALLER: The pregnancy test.
CLINIC: Anytime.
CALLER: What are your hours?
CLINIC: 9 and 4.
CALLER: Tomorrow too?
CLINIC: Um-hmm.
CALLER: All right.
Well, I've got to call my boyfriend and see. But if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to
you? What was your name?
CLINIC: My name is Michele.
CALLER: All right.
Okay. Thanks.
Bye.
***END***
COMPREHENSIVE
HEALTH FOR WOMEN
4401
W 109TH ST # 100
OVERLAND
PARK, KS 66211
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